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Green Bay Packers: Training camp schedule, insights
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Green Bay Packers 2012 Nike Football Uniform - Nike News
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Seattle portion of Ted Thompson's Wiki page

I take exception with whomever posted that Thompson drafted all those notable Seattle draft picks, like Shawn Alexander. He was in charge of Pro Player acquisitions, and wouldn't have been scouting. Holmgren and Wolf were known for disregarding his opinions on draft matters in Green Bay, so I find it hard to believe Holmgren suddenly felt Thompson was his go-to guy in the draft in Seattle.
This was a guy who didn't want Wolf to trade for Favre or Keith Jackson, two very important parts of the 1996 Super Bowl XXXI team.
I'm sorry, but unless someone has something a little better than a puff piece from the Packers official web site - which has been known to tell a whopper or two in it's time, I cannot see how this stuff passes the sniff test and remains in his Wiki bio at Ted Thompson without at least SOME citation or verification. It may as well be an except from Grimm's fairy Tales for all the credibility it carries and whomever wrote it up in the first place doesn't strike me as all that knowledgeable about front office jobs in the NFL. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 10:59, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

    • Nobody objected or responded to my comment about a lack of verification for Thompson having any input in drafting players in Seattle. I left a comment to that end, waited a week, and have now deleted those parts of the Seattle portion stating Thompson had responsibility for drafting certain players. So long as someone can cite a verifiable source - as REQUIRED under the living persons biography Wiki rules - I will not challenge it further, but until such time as it conforms to the rules here, it is gone. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 02:18, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers Images Video



WikiProject Wisconsin

Should there be any relationship between this subproject and WikiProject Wisconsin? What are the established precedents? Royalbroil 02:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Packers Coming to Iron Mountain | Northwoods Airlifeline
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Starting Quarterbacks Template

I started the {{PackersQuarterbacks}} template, although the list is not complete. Many historical players were simply listed as "backs" so I'm not sure what position they actually played. Also, "starts" were not tracked so it's harder to find out if they were starting QBs. Please update if you have more information. Larkworb (talk) 20:14, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


What the Green Bay Packers should have done this offseason
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A.J. Hawk

Does anybody want to help me expand the AJ Hawk article? RC-0722 (talk) 14:40, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

I can help you bud. i can look for all kinds of pics and some info about his early life. --Preceding unsigned comment added by Pookeo9 (talk o contribs) 18:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Also I found a video of A.J Hawks selection in the 2006 nfl draft. [10]Pookeo9

Great! We need to rename a few things (e.g. pro summary into NFL records), merge the personal life section into actual sentences, add references, and consider rewording (I wood do it all myself but I'm very busy this weekend). RC-0722 (talk) 06:01, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Dont worry RC i could do some of the rewording and add references.--Pookeo9 (talk) 12:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

    • Hawk will be coming up on some Packers milestones over the next couple years. Foremost is the number of total tackles by a Packers LB. When Nick Barnett left GB for Free Agency, he was spoken of as very close to claiming the GB number of tackles by a LB record. (787 or 788 after his 8th season- depending on which source you believe.) Hawk is currently at 713 or 714 - again depending on which source you believe - after 7 seasons and should surpass Barnett in 2013. The reason I question sourcing is because I downloaded the updated 2012 Green Bay Packers record book and found it to be partially a work of fiction & not to be trusted as a legitimate source of Packers team records. I'm sure most of the entries are probably true but there are enough incorrect records listed to make the entire official Packers PDF copy of the team's records suspect. EXAMPLE: Nick Barnett is listed as holding the single season total tackles record with 194. This is simply not true according to every other source, including NFL.com. The best he ever did with the Packers was 138 in a single season (2005). Be VERY cautious about citing the official Packers record book for stuff. It's not what I consider a reliable source - even if it is an accepted standard for inclusion as a Wikipedia source by most any definition set forth here. IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 20:08, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Green Bay Packers #12 Aaron Rodgers Green Player Winning Method ...
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Green Bay Packers Seasons

I've expanded the artical on the '1919 Green Bay Packers season'. I'd also like to expand the other Packers seasons articals and get them up to starter quality. Hopefully, this will provide the resources to get the 'History of the Green Bay Packers' article to A or even Featured status. --James Fahringer (talk) 04:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


Dark Green Bay Computer Wallpaper 52901 1920x1080 px ...
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Images

I found 73 images of the NFL's greatest team during warmups for the Oct. 2007 Bears game from Ryan Grant's article, and here they are. I added an image to Deanna Favre's article. There are many more images that could be cropped out. Go, Pack, Go! Royalbroil 01:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)


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Proposal

I currently have a proposal at User_talk:SatyrBot/WikiProject_new_pages#Request_for_WikiProject_Green_Bay_Packers which would have a Bot automatically go through our categories and check for newly created articles that arent tagged with our project banner and place the pages in Wikipedia:WikiProject Green Bay Packers/No banner. If you have any comments on this, feel free to ask. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ? contribs) 21:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


Green Bay Packers Preseason: 3 Takeaways vs Denver Broncos
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Note that Snow Bowl (Green Bay) has been nominated for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Snow Bowl (Green Bay). I have left my comment and you are invited to express your thoughts. Royalbroil 18:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)


File:Green Bay Packers logo.svg - Wikimedia Commons
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Collaboration

Are you interested in doing a collaboration to creating a WP:DYK article on the Green Bay Packerettes? We could create it in a temporary subpage under this WikiProject and move it to mainspace after it's done. Royalbroil 01:04, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

(<-)Hey Royalbroil, what do you think about expanding the article to cover all of the previous cheer squads for the Packers? From all that I have read there is a rich history about all the past cheer squads, and I think it could be a great article over the whole subject. I'm going to hit the library either today or tomorrow and see if I can hunt down a book or two and maybe some other sources. I'll put a couple sources on the talk page that I found about the cheerleaders. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ? contribs) 17:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

(<-)Oh and I am going to hit my school's library tomorrow, and the county library on friday, so hopefully I can find some good info. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ? contribs) 02:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

(<-)I'm not willing to suggest the article for DYK with large gaps like that. Either we should wait until we find sources to flesh out a few sentences about the 1970s Packerettes and the Sideliners, or we move it to mainspace and forget about DYK. I vote we move it to mainspace. Too bad those references are inaccessible! Royalbroil 13:06, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey, ROYALBROIL and GONZO_FAN, I am a former Packers Cheerleader and wonder how I can help with this project. sideliner84@gmail.com --Sideliner84 (talk) 04:40, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

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Something of interest...

Perhaps you could use this for something, fit it into an article, or add it to a newsletter. Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 21:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


Green Bay Packers: Why Eddie Lacy should be re-signed
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Green Bay Packers 'G' Logo Color Decal at the Packers Pro Shop
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2007 Packers pics on flickr

I wasn't looking but found some Packers pictures at flickr that are licensed CC ShareAlike Attribution [11]. There's lots of opportunities to pick off pictures of players. Royalbroil 13:54, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

    • I have a friend who attends training camps in Green Bay and takes a TON of photos while he's there. He posts them on his account at photobucket and since he owns them, I'm sure any of the authors for ANY of the Green Bay Packers articles on players or the team could contact him and request permission to use any of the photos. He's quite nice that way. He sent me a complete set last year. For permission to use his Packers photos here, contact >> GIMPYBUTT on the scout.com PackerReport forum.<< (Click for linky.) Site registration is required, due to trolls, but it's free and very simple access. Once on the site, simply PM Gimpybutt. He's a moderator there. (Edited to insert my signature, which I apparently forgot to do when I posted the preceding. I'm not responsible for the following comment>>) IdioT.SavanT.i4 (talk) 19:41, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Serious warning!!! Be careful not to say anything positive about an opposing team (especially if they have beaten Green Bay), or anything negative at all about green bay because Gimpybutt will ban you from the site in two seconds. Not a bad guy , just a lot like Hugo Chavez. signed colt64 --Preceding unsigned comment added by o 03:40, 20 May 2010 (UTC)




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J. Lawrence

I just noticed in passing the existence two articles, Jimmy Lawrence (American football) and Jim Lawrence (American football), which might be about the same Packers player; there's a large, but not quite exact, overlap in biographical details. Anybody want to take a shot at figuring out if they are the same person, and if so which of the details the disagree over are correct? --Paul A (talk) 06:49, 14 September 2009 (UTC)




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Quick Question

Does this WikiProject use C-Class? This would seem to suggest yes, while this would seem to disagree. :-) Just trying to figure out if I should create the category or have the templates changed. Avicennasis @ 12:57, 24 Tamuz 5771 / 26 July 2011 (UTC)




SS Mariposa sails from LA to Honolulu on Dec 25, 1932 with several Green Bay Packer football players

Hello,

My grandfather, Roger Grove, a professional football player for the Green Bay Packers, sailed on the Mariposa on Dec 25, 1932 for an exhibition game in Hawaii. It was common practice in those days to play exhibition games in addition to the regular football schedule. I have a partial passenger list which was retrieved from Ancestry.com. On this list are several Green Bay Packer players: Henry "Hank" Bruder, Lavern "Lavvie" Dilweg, Wuert Englemann, Milton "Milt" Gantenbein, Roger Grove, Arnold "Arnie" Herber, William "Clarke" Hinkle, Earl "Curly" Lambeau, John "Johnny Blood" McNally, August "Mike" Michalske.

D'Nel Grove Stucki -- Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.103.47 (talk) 20:33, 19 October 2011 (UTC)




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Revival

I think it's time that we try to revive this Wikiproject, I was completely astonished by how many stubs (1 or 2 sentences maximum), there are about Packers rookies and even veterans and have been slowly been working them up to DYK status, and am waiting on a peer review of Aaron Rodgers. I know there are other editors who would like to help Packers related articles, so whose interested in trying to revive this project?--SKATER T a l k 02:49, 25 October 2013 (UTC)




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Blake Martinez

I have begun expanding Blake Martinez to get it up to DYK status. When I get off work I will finish his junior year and Senior sections, add his draft scouting section as well as some miscellaneus information. If someone has the time and would mind copy editing, peer reviewing and just keeping an eye on it it would be appreciated. Im still trying to get back in to the swing of things.--Church Talk 20:50, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

It's up and awaiting review. Thank all of you for your help. It's a lot more fun doing this with multiple people. --Church Talk 06:04, 17 July 2016 (UTC)



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Active Bot Request

I have an active bot request here to add the project's banner to Green Bay Packers pages that are missing it. Please add to the discussion there if anyone has anything to add. Thanks, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 04:36, 3 June 2016 (UTC)




Vic Ketchman

I'm not sure how many of you follow Packers.com or more specifically Vic Ketchman who does the 'Ask Vic" section, but I believe with his career and 43 seasons covering the NFL he may meet the requirements for an article. What do you all think? --Church Talk 15:21, 16 July 2016 (UTC)




Kyle Murphy

Hello Everyone, I have another article I'd like checked over if you can spare the time before I send it up to DYK. I figured since I had already done one Stanford player, why not another right? Thanks in advance!--Church Talk 08:41, 19 July 2016 (UTC)




Kyler Fackrell

I just finished my work on Kyler Fackrell, He's had a very interesting career. Would you all mind giving it a look over? Also what do you all feel needs to be done for it to be a good article candidate? I had a lot of fun writing it and would love for it to be my first Good Article. --Church Talk 20:05, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Bart Starr is another choice I could see up to FA. I guesss my problem is Im not sure where to even begin writing it.--Church Talk



Collaboration

Welcome @Lizard the Wizard, Mendeleev, and Yankees10! I am really glad you are here. My main idea for this group is to just foster collaboration and create great articles. Hopefully we can all help each other out!

I have a few projects/ideas and wanted to see if anyone is interested:

  • Bring List of Green Bay Packers stadiums to FL-class. I created this and think its close, just needs some more sources in the lede and a thorough copyedit/review.
  • Bring Clay Matthews III to GA-class. I just expanded the lede on this article. It just needs better sources, a little expansion and some clean-up.
  • Expand George Whitney Calhoun to DYK and start-class. Such a small stub for an important character in Packers history; could easily be expanded for DYK.

Please let me know if you are interested in collaborating on any of these projects. I am also interested if you guys have any projects you would like to collaborate on. Thanks! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 01:41, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Will do, you may want to take a look on my userpage. I list all of my DYKs some of which arent listed in the page. We may be closer then we thought to one of our goals--Church Talk 22:40, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Welcome @Stylteralmaldo! Let us know if you have any ideas for collaboration or are interested in any specific articles. Glad to have you back! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

I added some references there for 2014 and 2015. I added 2 for 2014 and 1 for 2015. What class is it on? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 03:31, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

@Lizard the Wizard:, I added some references I know it's to early to nominate it for GA status I will focus on it more. But how does it look should I change it to C-Class? I even added he got in a sideline fight at Carolina in week 9. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 05:04, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
I did saw that edit summary you said to me. I won't worry about C class but I will however worry about the article. I am actually going to add that whenever I can. Thanks for telling me that. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 19:35, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
Lizard I agree with you for me to read a GA article about a NFL player. I read a article about Calvin Johnson and I saw on the article that it mentioned his college and NFL awards. Isn't that one of the ways a GA article about a NFL player should be? I agree I will keep it up like you said about me workin on HHCD's article. I will try to continue getting familiar with GA articles (hell I will even read the criteria for GA whenever I can). Since I don't feel like adding the citation template to the article, would you mind to do it though. I agree with you when you said for me to keep it up and that's what I will do. I want to continue helping the article. I believe adding a article to GA status is kinda hard and it takes time. I will continue spending time working on it and continue getting familiar with good articles like Calvin Johnson. I saw a lot of info being added in the top of that page and I am hoping the same thing happens in the HHCD article. I won't really worry about GA yet but I do however hope this is my first GA. I even said that it is too early to worry about GAs now. I will focus on improving it by doing a lot of stuff there. But one thing on me improving the article and I hate to say this but I can't do this work all by myself and I might need you to help me with the article if I need it. I might even leave a message on your talkpage one day if I do need help. You can actually tell me the issues about this or what needs to be done on my talkpage so I can fix them. Remember though as I said I won't worry about GAs now. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 02:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I know but I just can't do it all by myself hopefully you or Lizard help. Anyways, I will let you or Lizard know if I need anything. Should we close this? --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 04:32, 26 July 2016 (UTC)



Haha Clinton-Dix

What's up guys! I am trying to improve the article Haha Clinton-Dix. I'm not trying to get it to GA just yet as I will worry about that once it reaches B class but I am focusing on improving the article. I would love to have this my first GA but I won't worry about that now so please don't tell me anything about that part. About the article, I believe there are issues with the article. When I read Kyler Fackrell, Kyle Murphy, and Dean Lowry, I figured out that's one of the ways I can improve the article. I added the citation tag because I believe it needs some references as well. Don't get me wrong there are some but I think there should be a little more. As I am trying to add a little quotes in the article and try to improve it the way Church did the 3 articles I mentioned, could one of you guys let me know what to put in the article, like how HHCD, ESPN, or Packers fans reacted here so I can copy what you told me what I can add to be put in the article or more information about what I can add about his college career. I think the college part needs a little more info in my opinion. Thanks! --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 03:47, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

I added that he was picked by Packer fans. The Citation part is kinda hard though. Could you please look at that part I mentioned about Packer fans picking him. I did mentioned he was excited to be a Packer. That citation part you mentioned seems a little hard though I hate to say. --ThunderFan109 (Thunder Up!) 02:50, 29 July 2016 (UTC)




Packers by the Numbers

Does anyone own a copy of Packers by the Numbers: Jersey Numbers and the Players who Wore Them? The preview is pretty limited on Google books, and conveniently excludes the entire chapter on Canadeo. Lizard (talk) 21:24, 1 August 2016 (UTC)




Dean Lowry

I just finished my expansion of Dean Lowry and would like the usual check over and reevaluation if you all have the time. My goal at this point is to make people seeing DYK on the main page think that all of their editors like the Packers :). Regards----Church Talk 06:33, 24 July 2016 (UTC)




Jason Spriggs

Evening everyone, I just finally got Jason Spriggs to a point where I feel comfortable of it passing DYK. I tell you what, Offensive Lineman are tough to write for. Add that to the fact I haven't had the time I need lately to write about him. If someone would mind giving it the usual treatment It'd be much appreciated. --Church Talk 19:20, 5 August 2016 (UTC)




Thunderfan and Ha-Ha Clinton Dix

I just heard the news that Thunderfan was a sock of banned user. The most notable article he edited on this account was Ha Ha Clinton-Dix. Per policy, any changes by a banned person should be reverted but he does seem to have done some alright stuff to the article. When we have the time can we give the article a once-over and a little bit of polish just to make sure everything seems to be okay? Thanks, --Church Talk 22:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)




Billy Grimes

If anyone is interested in a player who's been kinda forgotten by time, Billy Grimes seems like a good article to spend a few hours building up to start-class. Two-time Pro Bowler in 3 seasons with the Pack. Had a brilliant season in 1950. Here's his PFR profile. Lizard (talk) 15:27, 3 August 2016 (UTC)




Canadeo

I think I'll start on Tony Canadeo next week and see how far I can get it. Running backs have kind of become my forte, and I've seen a good bit on him as I work on Steve Van Buren, what with their careers overlapping. Hopefully we'd be able to get him to GA and knock one more out for that retired numbers Good Topic. Also it's really odd that Jim Taylor's number is retired by the Saints but not the Packers. Lizard (talk) 09:07, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

I've started on Canadeo. Split his career into pre-war and post-war. Gonna go from there. Lizard (talk) 16:42, 23 July 2016 (UTC)




Reggie White

I'm taking a break from the Pack for a while to focus on another project I've been meaning to get to, but I'm planning Reggie White as my next Packers project. Looks like someone did a fine job with his college career, but his pro career is obviously lacking. I've never done a defensive player though, so I'm not sure if I'll be able to spin up something that befits a legend of this magnitude. Lizard (talk) 04:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)




Hutson

Looks like Don Hutson is gonna be GA reviewed soon. Hopefully it's good enough. If so it'll be 2 down and 4 to go for the retired numbers, plus the retired numbers list article. Lizard (talk) 15:47, 18 August 2016 (UTC)




Anyone know French?

Bart Starr is a GA on the French Wikipedia. And the refs are all in English, so maybe the main contributor can assist in our English version. Lol does pinging work with interlanguage links? Lizard (talk) 01:36, 26 August 2016 (UTC)




Nomination of Geronimo Allison for Deletion

Hey gang, just wanted to let you all know that I have nominated Geronimo Allison for deletion. Seems like a pretty clear cut case of failing WP:NGRIDIRON to me but I figured I would inform you all if you wish to weigh in.--Church Talk 19:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)




It's finally time!

Evening Gents, Just wanted to wish you all a happy NFL season. I for one will spend tomorrow kicked up in my chair with a cold beer watching the Pack handle Jacksonville. I apologize for the drop off in my productivity here lately. The 80 hour weeks aren't fun. Heres hoping to a fun season and more improvement to the Packers articles!--Church Talk 00:01, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

@Lizard the Wizard: I don't know. Again, I was talking about McCarthy and Thompson. Any chances McCarthy is gone after the season? --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 01:38, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
How do you think Packers will be this year @Lizard the Wizard:? --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 02:29, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
I want to add that MM was critized for conservatism against the Seahawks. Is there any citation I can say? --Mark Ellwitz (talk) 02:48, 29 September 2016 (UTC)



Me Being MIA

Sorry everyone for suddenly going MIA. Not sure how much time I will have to edit, but I am still here and will answer any messages sent my way or here at the project. Hope all is well! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 23:04, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

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